Grain bins vandalized

Indian Head RCMP are investigating after two empty steel grain bins were reported damaged July 30 southeast of Indian Head, Sask. The bins’ owner suspects the damage was done in late June.

Police say the bins were empty at the time they were damaged, and they believe the vehicle used to damage them was a Chevrolet. One of the bins was “driven through completely,” according to police.

Damage to the bins is estimated to be $12,000 to $16,000.

Anyone with information regarding this crime is asked to contact the Indian Head RCMP Detachment at 306-695-5200 or Crimestoppers.

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  • Dayton

    Um, sorry I would estimate those bins might be worth $1,500 each if they still have floors.

    • Denise

      Not replacement value. The 12 – 16 K would be right on

      • Dayton

        Replacement value is replacement value or equal value. Try that with SGI next time you have a claim on something 40 years old.

        • Bruce

          Yes, but when this person cannot find used bins to buy. The replacement value might indeed be 10 thousand dollars minus an SGI payment of $1,500 to the owner of the bins.

          • Stephen Daniels

            Bruce so the guy was extremely lucky to be vandalized ,where could I find someone to drive through my old bins so I can cash in?

          • Dayton

            There’s a drought, go on Kijiji. Bins galore rotten floors and all. Under 1500

          • Dayton

            So a Bin used for 40 years has replaced its cost several times. Now your saying it is worth ten times original cost when some one else destroys it. But still only worth his original cost if he would have sold it a day earlier. Really?

          • Harold

            Contrary to what you believe, the bin does not replace “its cost several times”. The bin is an initial out of pocket expense (debt) asset that depreciates in value in time. For the bin to pay for itself many times over the bin itself needs to increase in value to which it does not. There is good debt and bad debt but they always remain a debt. When you replace an item it becomes a new debit. A good debt insures the sales and profits of a product; not the profit of a sale of the bin. For a side example, you do not buy a car without paying a debt unless it is gifted to you. Paying cash is still a debit to your bank account which can never be paid back and the sum for selling that car afterwards is subtracted from original debt figure; it is not a profit. Taking money out of your bank and putting half of the same money back into the bank is not called a profit. It is a debt reduction. (Accounting 101)
            Who is saying that a 40 year old bin increases in value other than you, by your claim that the bin “has replaced its cost several times”?
            Furthermore, there is no price tag on anything used; there is only an asking price, but at the end of the day it is the bottom line on the bill of sale that represents what the market or the buyer was willing to pay and its value – to the buyer. The day before the crime is irrelevant because there were no interested buyers making an offer to determine the value. (Business 101)

            Nonetheless, this is a case of a crime wherein the farmer has had a non-self determined debt forced upon him by the cause of unwelcome individuals. In Law this is called harm, and it is a crime. Before the crime was committed, the bins were usable and now they are not and now they have to be replaced. Who rightfully and lawfully decides what day the farmer will debit from his profits and replace those bins; is it you, a criminal, or the owner of that property? Does even a 10 dollar value change a thing? (Morals if taught 101)
            I’m sure that the criminals are glad that a few people, in the name of all that is good, are “watching their backs” by white-washing their crime. Perhaps there have been too many Hollywood movies and they have now become our sense of justice and reality.

        • Harold

          An Insurance contract is not the measure of any loss; It is only an agreement of what will be paid on your behalf in the event of a loss. (contract wording) Today’s removal costs, current product price, delivery and set up costs, loss of use costs, access costs and damages, and all other related costs are factored into the estimate to gain the full extent of the damages. The estimation is based upon what the needed companies will charge to make good and to restore and are not relative to what cost cutting measures that the farmer will take on for his or her own self. Primarily, the cost estimates are a measurement of the crime committed against the farmer by the perpetrator when balanced against the day before the crime ever happened and when any actions were unnecessary; the outcome being: as good or better. Deeper yet, If the original bins had been given to the farmer as a gift, (no labor – no charge) would this then mean, that the perpetrator has committed a no-loss crime?
          It seems that there are more and more people today who enjoy devaluing the gravity of a crime committed against an innocent as if they are justly serving someone harmed by being an apologist for the criminal. If the criminal can find a 40 year old bin or an equal bin, then at the expense of the criminal, he should get it and place it on the property and remove the damaged bin to eliminate the harm that he has caused the farmer, and then sweep the floor on his way off of the property. If the criminal cannot find a bin, then the criminal pays the higher price. This is what a damage estimate represents.

          • Dayton

            If my 04′ Duramax was stolen and totalled do you suggest I replace it with a 2017 model or another ’04? SGI would laugh me out of the office if I suggested that option. Regardless of your painstaking explanation.

          • Harold

            If you suggested the 2017 model it would be seen as either a poor joke or your attempt to commit a fraud.

            The value of the 04 Duramax is the measurement of the crime. If you cannot replace it with another 04 Duramax of equal value and you must choose a newer model, then the extra cost burden becomes the measurement of the crime. A victim of Crime is forced to accept all burdens of that crime. This is not rocket science and it has nothing to do with SGI.
            SGI is an insurance contract and they by contract insure the black book price of the loss. This is the contract that you bought and pay for annually. If you have only public liability and public damage coverage then the total burden of the loss rests upon the victim. No insurance contract allows anyone to profit above a loss. An insurance contract is not a profit contract; it is a limited loss recovery contract. What you do thereafter with a SGI check in hand is your burden if a replacement costs you more. Had there not been a crime committed there would have been no burdens and in your case your 04 Duramax still parked in your driveway.

          • Dayton

            So the 12 to 16000 value assessed for bins worth $1500 isn’t fraud? …

          • Harold

            The RCMP are involved with this case. What makes you think that there is or will be a fraud or that the person suffering the loss will even make a claim with the insurance company. If there is a claim, and the insurance Company has a question of value, they send out their outside adjusters to assess the damage. They don’t ever send out a “blind cheque”. If the adjuster sets the value at 100 dollars, the claimant gets 100 dollars and that is all. The farmer still has to remove the scrap metal and costs, purchase replacements and delivery and set up costs, from his pocket along with the 200 dollars the insurance company gave him, all because some misfit to society came onto to his property. At the end of the day, with or without the insurance company, he be out of pocket because of the crime committed against him. There is a reason why this is called a crime and that the RCMP are seeking to arrest the perpetrator and not the farmer.

    • Stephen Daniels

      You would think an agricultural publication would have a clue.

  • Stephen Daniels

    Obviously an act of violence and destruction aimed at eliminating any monuments to the once great but very oppressive and bigoted CWB.which persecuted farmers who had different beliefs.Very similar to what is going on with confederate statues in the USA.

    • ed

      I do like your “once great” description of the CWB.. The grain companies like their virtual slaves and basically have them back now that the collective majority’s will has been taken away. Willingness to go along with this kind of abuse so you don’t get even more financially injured is easier than fighting, and you could even be the pet slave if you be good. You are still a slave to a very great degree. Thanks for dragging the debate into the bozo zone once again. It doesn’t deserve to be there and that particular conversation to which you refered deserves much more respect than is being given here. It is a serious matter, and best not to be mused at lightly.

    • Harold

      so the vandals came onto the farmers property aimed at destroying the bins which were unknown monuments of CWB oppression, persecution and bigotry if I am following you correctly. How do you connect the farmer’s ownership of the items on his property to oppression, persecution and bigotry and the vandal his relief? I am sure that you can locate an honor badge for the vandals to wear. Do the confederate statues in the USA also double as agricultural storage bins? What happens next; does the cow jump over the moon and the dish runs away with the spoon?